Overly agressive cop?

**1inStripes** · September 20th, 2010, 09:55 PM

I would bet theres a good possibility that the age plus alcohol level left the man less than stable on his feet. It probably wouldnt take much and an accident may have caused his injury. The cop may have reacted to the guy jumping him and just tried getting him off of him and the result caused the guy to fall even without "unnecessary force". Hopefully the camera in the car was in a position to capture it.

**R13** · September 20th, 2010, 10:21 PM

I mean it's not being disputed that the officer threw him to the ground, it's the force he used in doing that. Assuming I believe the old man did anything to the cop to warrant him being taken down.

**1inStripes** · September 20th, 2010, 10:48 PM

Put yourself in the position of a cop if someone comes from behind on your and grabs you around the shoulders/neck. You have a gun, but are in a very vulnerable position of having it taken from you, or they may have one or a knife on themselves as well. You naturally will defend yourself and try to seperate yourself from them.

**R13** · September 20th, 2010, 10:57 PM

He came from behind? Where does it say that? I looked over it several times and just said "grabbed the officers neck" and threatened to punch him in the face, doesn't sound from behind to me. I mean I could be reading it wrong, but pretty sure it wasn't from behind.

**steer** · September 21st, 2010, 12:08 AM

Doesn't matter the age or what. My grandfather is 80, and he's more than capable of choking a cop and taking his gun.

so, if alcohol was present and he approached the officer in any manner.... he had the right to defend himself... Age plays a part in how easy it is for the elder to receive injury.

**imported_elp6n** · September 21st, 2010, 08:59 AM

The words 'elderly' and 'senior' tend to conjure images of weakness. This is just word spinning.

The status of being a senior citizen doesn't give them a free pass to assault anyone.
We cant pity them if they're breaking the law just because they're considered elderly.

And being elderly doesn't mean they're weak. I'm sure most of us know some tough older folks that we wouldn't want to mess with. My own grandmother, up until she was 86 or so and broke her hip, was a very strong woman who tilled and hoed her own gardens and did a good deal of the manual labor around her home.

FWIW Younger folks are also injured in altercations with police.

**centennialdawg** · September 21st, 2010, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by imported_elp6n

The words 'elderly' and 'senior' tend to conjure images of weakness. This is just word spinning.

The status of being a senior citizen doesn't give them a free pass to assault anyone.
We cant pity them if they're breaking the law just because they're considered elderly.

And being elderly doesn't mean they're weak. I'm sure most of us know some tough older folks that we wouldn't want to mess with. My own grandmother, up until she was 86 or so and broke her hip, was a very strong woman who tilled and hoed her own gardens and did a good deal of the manual labor around her home.

FWIW Younger folks are also injured in altercations with police.

I agree with you on this, being elderly does not mean that he was a weak, frail man. With alcohol being involved, anything can and will happen. It just means the man is older, not weak.

**1inStripes** · September 21st, 2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by R13

He came from behind? Where does it say that? I looked over it several times and just said "grabbed the officers neck" and threatened to punch him in the face, doesn't sound from behind to me. I mean I could be reading it wrong, but pretty sure it wasn't from behind.

You read too much into my post. I didn't say it was this particular situation, but a general situation of being in a cops shoes. We really don't know the angle the attacker came one way or the other, but I assume its at least from the side since he grabbed the cops arm.